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posted September 27, 2001 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SeniorAdmin   Click Here to Email SeniorAdmin     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
A big lift / World's largest mobile crane rolls into power plant

From five miles away, it looks like a huge Ferris wheel next to the power plant. Up close, the Mammoet crane, nicknamed "MoMo," looks like what it is - the largest mobile crane in the world. Area residents have heard tidbits about the crane for weeks from the 240 employees at the Ameren (formerly CIPS) Energy Generating Coffeen Power Station. It took 169 tractor-trailers to bring the crane to Montgomery County. It was first used in the United States in Louisiana.

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posted September 28, 2001 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kraneguy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The crane is called the Platform Twinring. There are actually three of them in the fleet. The other two are newer and reffered to as PTC's. PTC stands for Platform Twinring Containerised. These two can be disassembled into 20 and 40 ft. shipping containers and every piece of the crane can be lifted with a normal container crane on any dock anywhere in the world. They have the fittings already molded into the ends so they can go from any container crane onto any truck/trailer that normally handles shipping containers. These cranes are the best giants that exist anywhere.

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posted August 22, 2002 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for G. Balasubramanian   Click Here to Email G. Balasubramanian     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Photos are excellent. It will be nice to know more about the ringer and its foundation details, as we have a similar crane (FMC Link Belt 918/1018) only with rollers ie., without any ring beam. Thanks with Kind regards...

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posted November 26, 2002 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NC1CraneLady   Click Here to Email NC1CraneLady     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I would love to see this beast in action...actually would like to supply just a small part of the transportation....who owns this mammoth? and what kind of permits are required to move it?

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posted January 05, 2003 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for malaycobra     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The crane is owned by Mammoet in the Netherlands.

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posted June 22, 2003 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hermen   Click Here to Email Hermen     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
These Cranes are build by Mammoet (old Van Seumeren) and Huisman Itrec.
There are already two items build. The used nicknames by Mammoet for these cranes are Beatrix and Maxima (the queen and crownprinses of The Netherlands)

More info about these cranes: http://www.mammoet.com/plaatjes/db/PDFs/3.pdf

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posted August 13, 2004 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dramjattan   Click Here to Email dramjattan     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The world"s largest crane is the mammoet "momo" currently working in Trinidad West Indies just to note guy foot was amputated during assembly in May 2004

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posted June 05, 2005 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oilfield trash   Click Here to Email oilfield trash     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I would really love to know the capacity of the huge crane.

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posted June 06, 2005 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carsten   Click Here to Email Carsten     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Mammoet recently put into service its third PTC. Here you can read more about it: http://www.crane-forum.com/showtopic.php?threadid=164

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posted August 07, 2005 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ibanezman6996   Click Here to Email ibanezman6996     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
man i would love to see it up close

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posted November 29, 2005 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carsten   Click Here to Email Carsten     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Mammoet is starting to built up the fourth PTC!!! This will be up to 35% stronger than its predecessors! More infos: http://www.crane-forum.com/showtopic.php?threadid=164

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posted April 03, 2006 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for craneguy84   Click Here to Email craneguy84     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The picture of the Platform Twinring (the world's largest mobile crane) is so awesome. I wish I could operate it.

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posted April 28, 2006 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amberbooks   Click Here to Email amberbooks     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi - I am writing from Amber Books - a book publishing company in London. We are putting together a book called 'The World's Biggest Machines'.

This thread has been a godsend in trying to find out what is the worlds largest carne. I have noticed some photos of this posted but they are too small to put in the book. I was wondering if anyone had any photos of this crane that I could use.

I would be very grateful for any help you can give me in finding a photograph for this.

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posted May 29, 2006 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepdoodoo   Click Here to Email deepdoodoo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Sorry to interrupt this thread but I'm complete layman attempting to write a project on the worlds largest machines and I have chosen PTC cranes as one of the articles. My internet searches have proven fruitless and I wonder if anyone would spare me the time to explain a few things in order that I can complete my project factually.

Could anyone explain the principle of Twin Ring and why this differs from other crane types? I'm assuming that one ring of the 'twin' relates to the rotation of the crane and the other relates to the circular 'outrigger' similar to what is shown in the pictures at the start of this thread.

If I've got this totally wrong, please feel free to laugh, but I really would be grateful for some knowledge and assistance. Many thanks.

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posted May 31, 2006 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kraneguy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Twin ring is a bit mis leading. Its a twin Boom ringer.
It has two booms that meet at one boom head.
Go to mammoet.com and look for more info.

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posted June 01, 2006 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carsten   Click Here to Email Carsten     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Here is a direct link to the specifications of the PTC Twin ring:
http://www.mammoet.com/plaatjes/db/PDFs/3.pdf

By using the Ring-Attachement, the weight of the crane is spread over a larger surface. So the specific ground pressure can be reduced very much.

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posted June 01, 2006 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepdoodoo   Click Here to Email deepdoodoo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
OK, thanks for that. I'd already looked long and hard at the Mammoet site and the spec sheets. One thing that is still confusing me is 'superlift' mode where the ballast is placed outside of the ring. Can the crane rotate like this with a load, and if so, how?

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posted June 02, 2006 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carsten   Click Here to Email Carsten     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yes, the crane can rotate with the Superlift and the load. Though it seems so, the superlift-ballast doesn't touch the ground. It floats some centimeters above the ground.

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posted June 09, 2006 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for malaycobra     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I have the PTC coming to my job site in August. We are doing the steam generator change out at Watts Bar Nuclear plant in Spring City Tennessee. There are 8 generators, and we will lift them through the roof of containment. We'll be picking 400t at 165' radius. When we lay them down onto the transporters we will be at 220 feet!!!

I'll try to get pictures to Doyle to post.
If anyone has any questions about the crane I'll do my best to answer them.

Steve

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Carsten
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posted June 14, 2006 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carsten   Click Here to Email Carsten     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
This sounds very interesting! If you don't mind you can send me pictures too. We could also publish them in our board.
My Email is info(at)tdkv.de

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posted June 14, 2006 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for malaycobra     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'll be happy to send pictures to all who want them. I'll probably put them on a web site for all to see.

Lifts begin in October.

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posted August 26, 2006 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for donmcc     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'm new to this message board, and I must say that the capibilities of the twin ring are impressive. But just for comparison, I'd like to give you a few facts and figures about Deep South Crane's TC36000. The crane is now at the Marshall Steam Station just north of Charlott N.C. It is equiped with 450 feet of main boom and 160feet of jib, for a total of 610 feet. We are setting loads in excess of 150 US tons at radi from a minium of 150feet out to beyond 500 feet. We also spent a couple of weeks "hanging iron" with the whipline out past 500 feet. By the chart, the max load on the jib is 124 US tons at a radius of 600 feet.

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Originally posted by donmcc:
I'm new to this message board, and I must say that the capibilities of the twin ring are impressive. But just for comparison, I'd like to give you a few facts and figures about Deep South Crane's TC36000. The crane is now at the Marshall Steam Station just north of Charlott N.C. It is equiped with 450 feet of main boom and 160feet of jib, for a total of 610 feet. We are setting loads in excess of 150 US tons at radi from a minium of 150feet out to beyond 500 feet. We also spent a couple of weeks "hanging iron" with the whipline out past 500 feet. By the chart, the max load on the jib is 124 US tons at a radius of 600 feet.

Hello domcc,

I am a new member of this forum. I am interested to get much more informations about the VersaCrane TC 36000 from Deep South Crane & Rigging.

Regards kranhuber

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posted December 25, 2006 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for castor     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The 36000 is now at Shell Deer Park on the coker drum replacement project. There are 4 coke drums being replaced. The most impressive part is how the derricks are coming off. Instead of demo, the derricks are coming off in one piece. The biggest lift will be approx. 650 US tons at a radius of about 120 feet. There is 420 feet of main boom with no jib, and the block has a forty part line. Deep south has just finished erecting the crane and had a test lift planned for friday the 22. The crane with be at 93% of its charts. Lampson also put in a bid for the job. The LTL 2600 would have stayed within 75% of its charts, but a 30 million dollar deposit was required for the job and Lampson turned it down. The Transi-lift design allows it to have a higher capacity at the same radius as the 36000.

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posted December 25, 2006 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SeniorAdmin   Click Here to Email SeniorAdmin     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I worked in the same plant in 1965 on a turn-around. The crane I operated was a 599 American with about 80 ft. of stick. The largest crane on the project was a 999 American. My, my, how time slips away.

Back in those days a 999 was considered a BIG Rig.

Doyle Peeks

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posted December 25, 2006 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for malaycobra     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Job done.

Here are the photos of the PTC and some of the other stuff we got up to.

Enjoy! http://picasaweb.google.com/craneguy/WattsBarSelectedProjectPhotos#

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posted December 26, 2006 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kranhuber   Click Here to Email kranhuber     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by castor:
The 36000 is now at Shell Deer Park on the coker drum replacement project. There are 4 coke drums being replaced. The most impressive part is how the derricks are coming off. Instead of demo, the derricks are coming off in one piece. The biggest lift will be approx. 650 US tons at a radius of about 120 feet. There is 420 feet of main boom with no jib, and the block has a forty part line. Deep south has just finished erecting the crane and had a test lift planned for friday the 22. The crane with be at 93% of its charts. Lampson also put in a bid for the job. The LTL 2600 would have stayed within 75% of its charts, but a 30 million dollar deposit was required for the job and Lampson turned it down. The Transi-lift design allows it to have a higher capacity at the same radius as the 36000.

Hello castor,

many thanks for this informations. Is it possible for you to take photos at site from this crane ? I am very interested. If yes you can mail me under neumann.rtg@planet-interkom.de

Kind Regards

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The intranet web site at the Shell Deer Park refinery says that the Coke drum crane can lift 2500 US tons and that the Coke drum lift is 850 tons. I've been told this is the 4th largest crane in the world. I wanted to find the largest but the MoMo identified in this forum lists it's max as 1900t??

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posted January 30, 2007 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kraneguy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Check out deepsouthcrane.com.
They own the 36000 (2500t) crane.
The number one largest is the Mammoet MSG 100, Second i think is the Lampson LTL2600, third is probally the MSG50 of Mammoets and the 36000 must be 4th.
I know the PTC's and sarens PC 9600 are monster in their own right also.

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Originally posted by castor:
The 36000 is now at Shell Deer Park on the coker drum replacement project. There are 4 coke drums being replaced. The most impressive part is how the derricks are coming off. Instead of demo, the derricks are coming off in one piece. The biggest lift will be approx. 650 US tons at a radius of about 120 feet. There is 420 feet of main boom with no jib, and the block has a forty part line. Deep south has just finished erecting the crane and had a test lift planned for friday the 22. The crane with be at 93% of its charts. Lampson also put in a bid for the job. The LTL 2600 would have stayed within 75% of its charts, but a 30 million dollar deposit was required for the job and Lampson turned it down. The Transi-lift design allows it to have a higher capacity at the same radius as the 36000.


Hello castor,

many thanks for this informations. I am interested to get much more informations about the Lampson LTL 26000 crane, if possible can you mail me under litfr@hotmail.com ? you are appreciated.

Thanks and Best Regards!

litfr

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posted February 22, 2007 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for donmcc     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The job at Shell Deer Park is now complete except for move out. Once again the TC36000 performed as expected with no problems. I've been with this crane since it was first tested in the summer of 2000, and it continues to amaze me. Forty-five days around the clock ,with major lifts being done both day and night, and the crane answered every call. Makes no difference, eight hundred tons three hundred feet up on the load blocks, or a welding machine on the whip line, no surprises,and no problems .

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Thumbs up for the operators, crews and support groups, on every shift! Good job folks!

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posted February 24, 2007 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kranhuber   Click Here to Email kranhuber     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by donmcc:
The job at Shell Deer Park is now complete except for move out. Once again the TC36000 performed as expected with no problems. I've been with this crane since it was first tested in the summer of 2000, and it continues to amaze me. Forty-five days around the clock ,with major lifts being done both day and night, and the crane answered every call. Makes no difference, eight hundred tons three hundred feet up on the load blocks, or a welding machine on the whip line, no surprises,and no problems .


Hello donmcc,

for me it sounds like that you are working for Deep South Crane and Rigging e.g. as the crane driver of the VersaCrane TC 36000 .

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posted April 30, 2007 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for castor     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
At the Shell job the derricks were a little over 800t, I want to say 820(including rigging). As far as the drums, the old ones were lighter, but the new ones were about 550t. The 36000 is an amazing crane. Like Don said, 800 tons 300 feet up at 160 foot radius or a welding machine, it doesn't matter. Just the sheer mass of that monstrousity is amazing. From a riggers prospective, you will learn to respect the hell out of a 1/2 inch choker the first time you have to try to handle a 3 1/2 inch or a 1 inch shackle when you have to man handle the pin on a 300t. Don, I believe we have met a time or two. I go by Adam outside of the internet and I was rigging for Wyatt. You can e-mail me if you want to(castor281@hotmail.com), I would love to hear what's going on now.

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I think it would be illegal to posess pictures taken within the gates of a Shell refinery. Would it be illegal to possess them, or just illegal if I took them? Hmmmmmmm....loophole? If I could find the answer to that then I would have a definitive answer as to whether or not I have any pictures. As for your question Litfr. I know somebody that works for Lampson. I'm sure I could get a look a the load charts as well as some other things, but I am not sure if I would be allowed to post them. I'll have to check in to that.

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posted April 30, 2007 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for castor     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
One more thing that I wanted to mention about Shell is the 308 that Deep South used to assemle the 36000. A 308 ton crane is nothing special by todays standards, but after the 36000 was assembled, Deep South moved it arround to the other side of the unit and put 417 feet of stick in it. Which is impressive enough for a 308, but what I loved about it was the fact that it had a 217 foot of main and a 200 foot luffer. Maxim had a rig out there that had a 120 foot luffer and everybody thought it was the **** until the 308 dwarfed it. On a crane like the 36000 you don't just eyeball it to make sure you are centered over the load, but on a 308 trying to eyeball your center when the point is 350 foot in the air is no easy task. I had a smooth operator so my job was pretty easy, but if the wind was high and the ball wouldn't stop I must admit I had a few things run on me. Most people aren't too familiar with the 308 so just imagine a 2250 with 417 foot of stick. All in all it was a fun job and a hell of an experience. If you ever get a chance to work on a job with the 36000, jump on it. Now I want on a job that has a LTL 2600, and I would be willing to bet that Lampson, Deep South, and Mammoet are all in the works of designing even bigger cranes. Could you imagine a 3000 or 3500 ton crane. What are the limits?

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With a little searching and zero speculation this is the best that I could come up with. First off, the Mammoet crane picture above is a 1600 ton crane. But the biggest that I could find was the

Mammoet MSG - 50 --- 3070 tons
http://www.mammoet.com/index.asp?m_id=5&s_id6=1&page=../equipment/info.asp

[img=http://img40.imagevenue.com/loc968/th_17617_170_122_968lo.jpg]

Next is the LTL 2600 --- 2600 tons.
http://www.lampsoncrane.com/Web%202003.swf

[img=http://img23.imagevenue.com/loc766/th_17612_Young_fig2_122_766lo.jpg]

Followed by the Versa-crane TC 36000 --- 2500 tons
http://www.deepsouthcrane.com/versacrane.htm

[img=http://img147.imagevenue.com/loc797/th_17622_spkill_122_797lo.jpg]

That is onshore. Check this beast out.
http://www.ultimatestupidity.com/pics/1/crane1.html

My father worked shutdowns and construction my whole life and I have been around and heard details about cranes for the last 10 or 12 years, and I can't help but wonder why I have never heard of the MSG - 50. Has anybody ever worked around this crane? Has anybody ever heard about it making a lift that the LTL 2600 or the 36000 couldn't handle? Just a thought, but every major corporation or company has been a proprietor of propaganda a one point or another. Could this be one of those times? Ignorance may be the case, but I have never heard of nor seen anything bigger then the LTL 2600. Okay so maybe just a little speculation.

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Ignorance is certainly the case here.Both MSG's are currently in the middle east . In late 2005 at Ras Laffan in Qatar we lifted among many , two reactors weighing 2200 metric tonnes each onto there foundations at 34 metre radius. the MSG was fitted with 75.5 metre main boom,15.4 metre jib and 2600 metric tonnes of counterweight.
Please go to www.mammoet.com where you can download the company magazine(mammoet world 6).Full details are contained in it.

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Yeah I'm not sure where I was really going with that rant. I guess the conspiracy theorist was coming out in me. I have seen the web site before, I posted a link to it as well. Have they done any work here in the states? I would also like to see more pics if anybody has discovered any.

Also check this out.
http://www.cranetalk.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000109.html

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posted December 16, 2007 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jokeco   Click Here to Email jokeco     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The one I am really interested to see is the new Terex/Demag 3500 ton capacity 8800 twin, that is a fully mobile crawler with a 3500(!) ton capacity, so I'm told. Up here, we had an 8800 Demag and it was absolutely monstrous, 1675 ton capacity, you just never really got used to the size of it. The Mammoet PTC's are impressive, a good friend of mine runs one but they are ultimately a ringer, not mobile, to be able to pick and carry 3500 tons is unbelievable, there's supposed to be one in the United Arab Emirates. Here's the manufacturer's link http://www.terex-demag.com/r_en/default_1000.aspx

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